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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul Supporters Gaming YouTube Digg to Smear Reporter Critical of Ron Paul</title>
	<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/</link>
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		<title>by: 2CAVTrooper</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-528</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is in reply to Mr. Held.

ron paul will not secure the borders.  Because by law federal troops can not be used in a law enforcement role.  So that rules out his plan to pull everyone back and place them on the border.

As far as everything else, unless he declares martial law and disolves congress, not a single one of his wishes will come true.

ron paul reminds me of a snake oil salesman selling his &quot;cure all&quot; and I'm waiting for Josey Wales to walk up and spit tobacco juice on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is in reply to Mr. Held.</p>
	<p>ron paul will not secure the borders.  Because by law federal troops can not be used in a law enforcement role.  So that rules out his plan to pull everyone back and place them on the border.</p>
	<p>As far as everything else, unless he declares martial law and disolves congress, not a single one of his wishes will come true.</p>
	<p>ron paul reminds me of a snake oil salesman selling his &#8220;cure all&#8221; and I&#8217;m waiting for Josey Wales to walk up and spit tobacco juice on him.
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-527</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Are you drunk, illiterate, dyslexic or just stupid?

I honestly can't tell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Are you drunk, illiterate, dyslexic or just stupid?</p>
	<p>I honestly can&#8217;t tell
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		<title>by: gravel kucinich paul nader</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-526</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>colbert gravel kucinich paul nader [conyers?] united for truth elicit fear smear blacklist.

honesty compassion intelligence guts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>colbert gravel kucinich paul nader [conyers?] united for truth elicit fear smear blacklist.</p>
	<p>honesty compassion intelligence guts&#8230;
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-517</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-517</guid>
					<description>No, my thesis is that Ron Paul supporters who promote Ron Paul using spam and harass and threaten and try to intimidate critics are... bad.

I know it's not a thesis you can honestly get on board with. But if you're going to claim that said Ron Paul supporters aren't who they say they are, you're really going to have to back it up with proof, because these people have Digg and YouTube histories of promoting Ron Paul and the work they're doing is promoting Ron Paul. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

No I don't think they're taking their marching orders from the Ron Paul HQ. I don't think the Ron Paul HQ matters. The campaign is in the hands of fanatics at the grass roots level who are really in charge. Some of them may be close to Ron Paul, some are members of various extremist groups. And that's the real HQ here and the Real Ron Paul campaign.

And I don't see the Ron Paul campaign standing up against this.

Ron Paul can be debated in five minutes. His campaign planks are a joke. It's like listening to Adlai Stevenson meets Pat Buchanan. But this isn't about his policies, it's about the tactics you people are using and those tactics tell us what fascists you bully boys really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No, my thesis is that Ron Paul supporters who promote Ron Paul using spam and harass and threaten and try to intimidate critics are&#8230; bad.</p>
	<p>I know it&#8217;s not a thesis you can honestly get on board with. But if you&#8217;re going to claim that said Ron Paul supporters aren&#8217;t who they say they are, you&#8217;re really going to have to back it up with proof, because these people have Digg and YouTube histories of promoting Ron Paul and the work they&#8217;re doing is promoting Ron Paul. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck&#8230;</p>
	<p>No I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re taking their marching orders from the Ron Paul HQ. I don&#8217;t think the Ron Paul HQ matters. The campaign is in the hands of fanatics at the grass roots level who are really in charge. Some of them may be close to Ron Paul, some are members of various extremist groups. And that&#8217;s the real HQ here and the Real Ron Paul campaign.</p>
	<p>And I don&#8217;t see the Ron Paul campaign standing up against this.</p>
	<p>Ron Paul can be debated in five minutes. His campaign planks are a joke. It&#8217;s like listening to Adlai Stevenson meets Pat Buchanan. But this isn&#8217;t about his policies, it&#8217;s about the tactics you people are using and those tactics tell us what fascists you bully boys really are.
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		<title>by: Charles Held</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-515</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/ron-paul-supporters-gaming-youtube-digg-to-smear-reporter-critical-of-ron-paul/#comment-515</guid>
					<description>OK, so your thesis is that:

(a) anyone who has done anything devious or dishonest is a Ron Paul supporter taking marching orders directly from RP08 HQ;

(b) anyone who believes (a) is to be considered 100% credible;

(c) anyone who believes that the devious or dishonest actions are being perpetrated as attempts to discredit Ron Paul is a kook.

Therefore, you think the spam is coming from genuine Ron Paul supporters, despite the spam's poor grammar and garbled headers.  And the faked posts on the Rudy forum about Ms. Stirland are the work of a genuine Ron Paul supporter too.  And that somehow the RP08 HQ is directly or tacetly involved with both.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Basically it comes down to this: none of the other candidates can debate Ron Paul on the issues, because he alone stands with the American people for:

- an end to wars in the middle east
- true border security with no amnesty for illegals
- lower taxes
- constitutional government
- repealing the income tax on social security benefits
- protecting the social security trust funds from being raided to mask the true size of the deficit
- rescuing the dollar from its current freefall
- restoring constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms

This desperate fear'n'smear by socialists on the left and warmongers on the right is doomed to fail.  See you at Dr. Paul's inauguration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OK, so your thesis is that:</p>
	<p>(a) anyone who has done anything devious or dishonest is a Ron Paul supporter taking marching orders directly from RP08 HQ;</p>
	<p>(b) anyone who believes (a) is to be considered 100% credible;</p>
	<p>(c) anyone who believes that the devious or dishonest actions are being perpetrated as attempts to discredit Ron Paul is a kook.</p>
	<p>Therefore, you think the spam is coming from genuine Ron Paul supporters, despite the spam&#8217;s poor grammar and garbled headers.  And the faked posts on the Rudy forum about Ms. Stirland are the work of a genuine Ron Paul supporter too.  And that somehow the RP08 HQ is directly or tacetly involved with both.</p>
	<p>Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.</p>
	<p>Basically it comes down to this: none of the other candidates can debate Ron Paul on the issues, because he alone stands with the American people for:</p>
	<p>- an end to wars in the middle east<br />
- true border security with no amnesty for illegals<br />
- lower taxes<br />
- constitutional government<br />
- repealing the income tax on social security benefits<br />
- protecting the social security trust funds from being raided to mask the true size of the deficit<br />
- rescuing the dollar from its current freefall<br />
- restoring constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms</p>
	<p>This desperate fear&#8217;n&#8217;smear by socialists on the left and warmongers on the right is doomed to fail.  See you at Dr. Paul&#8217;s inauguration.
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