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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul&#8217;s Opposition to Gay Marriage Clarified</title>
	<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/</link>
	<description>O_Deus returns rambling through space with essays, Star Trek Voyager and Enterprise reviews, episode guides, satires and whoknowswhat</description>
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		<title>by: J</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-549</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-549</guid>
					<description>Ron Paul a wacky-assed libertarian cracker who wants Texas to be its own independent republic with a working constitution and ten acres of land for every cornpone whitebread crackerassed white Texan.

Womenfolk should be birthing the fine, strapping blue-eyed babies and teaching them the gospel of Our Lord Jesus H. Christ and currency should be abolished, since the American dollar is chock full of detection devices and tracking chips. Further, the government is using pollution techniques to chemically alter your brain and allow them to have MIND CONTROL, so be sure to use special, libertarian-approved water filtration devices, and grow all of your own produce. Never flush your turds, because they're sent straight to a specialized government lab to analyze the foods you eat and gauge the ebb and flow of consumer spending, thus affecting price increases. Instead, take your turds out on moonless nights and burn them and scatter the ashes on private, libertarian-owned land. Send all blacks to Africa. Give everyone guns and refuse to carry the identification cards that are mandated by the US Fascist Regime. Buy and keep gold, and use it for trade. Drinking colloidal silver may turn your face purple, but it'll deflect the radio waves from government installed but Nike-owned satellite's that beam messages into your head and tell you to buy shoes, listen to rap music, crave large juicy booties and eat Twinkies. 9/11 was faked. Moon landing was faked. JFK is alive. When you get your dog vaccinated, they're actually bugging it with listening devices. Purchasing toilet paper assists the surge of the invading Chinaman.

That's Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul a wacky-assed libertarian cracker who wants Texas to be its own independent republic with a working constitution and ten acres of land for every cornpone whitebread crackerassed white Texan.</p>
	<p>Womenfolk should be birthing the fine, strapping blue-eyed babies and teaching them the gospel of Our Lord Jesus H. Christ and currency should be abolished, since the American dollar is chock full of detection devices and tracking chips. Further, the government is using pollution techniques to chemically alter your brain and allow them to have MIND CONTROL, so be sure to use special, libertarian-approved water filtration devices, and grow all of your own produce. Never flush your turds, because they&#8217;re sent straight to a specialized government lab to analyze the foods you eat and gauge the ebb and flow of consumer spending, thus affecting price increases. Instead, take your turds out on moonless nights and burn them and scatter the ashes on private, libertarian-owned land. Send all blacks to Africa. Give everyone guns and refuse to carry the identification cards that are mandated by the US Fascist Regime. Buy and keep gold, and use it for trade. Drinking colloidal silver may turn your face purple, but it&#8217;ll deflect the radio waves from government installed but Nike-owned satellite&#8217;s that beam messages into your head and tell you to buy shoes, listen to rap music, crave large juicy booties and eat Twinkies. 9/11 was faked. Moon landing was faked. JFK is alive. When you get your dog vaccinated, they&#8217;re actually bugging it with listening devices. Purchasing toilet paper assists the surge of the invading Chinaman.</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s Ron Paul.
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		<title>by: JKman</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-481</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:30:41 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-481</guid>
					<description>I am married and heterosexual and have absolutely nothing against gay marriages, and believe they should be on equal footing.  I am terribly perplexed as to why this is even a question at all.  Most everyone I know thinks the same way, except for some of my religious friends.  I don't mind if Ron Paul is personally not in alignment with Gay Marriage, as long as he would recognize it as a freedom that is the right of every individual.  I can accept one's heart to be different. I just want their reason and sense of justice to win over their heart and personal leanings.

It is unfortunate in the sense that Paul’s libertarian-constitutional approach fits well with the legislative choices he has made to date, whether he is actively for or against gay marriage.  I believe people are questioning his heart.  

In light of all this, I do hope he wins.  I see his ideologies very similar to my own.  I would hate to say 9 out of 10 aren’t bad, but I see no other alternative besides not voting.

Whoever you vote for, vote with your conscience.  I can understand those fighting for this equal right in marriage to hesitate and have question with a politician's heart, or a politician’s politics, if it rules over their sense of reason and justice.  

Question: Does Ron's sense of reason and justice trump his heart on this issue?  I cannot say with absolute certainty, but hope beyond hope it does for the POTUS.  The decision is yours and I fully understand anyone who chooses not to vote for Paul based on the question of his heart with this issue. 

I will vote for Paul; and hope many others will do the same.  And yes, the Question is still on my mind.  But I still hope, and I still believe his sense of liberty and freedom will win over all hearts, including his own.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am married and heterosexual and have absolutely nothing against gay marriages, and believe they should be on equal footing.  I am terribly perplexed as to why this is even a question at all.  Most everyone I know thinks the same way, except for some of my religious friends.  I don&#8217;t mind if Ron Paul is personally not in alignment with Gay Marriage, as long as he would recognize it as a freedom that is the right of every individual.  I can accept one&#8217;s heart to be different. I just want their reason and sense of justice to win over their heart and personal leanings.</p>
	<p>It is unfortunate in the sense that Paul’s libertarian-constitutional approach fits well with the legislative choices he has made to date, whether he is actively for or against gay marriage.  I believe people are questioning his heart.  </p>
	<p>In light of all this, I do hope he wins.  I see his ideologies very similar to my own.  I would hate to say 9 out of 10 aren’t bad, but I see no other alternative besides not voting.</p>
	<p>Whoever you vote for, vote with your conscience.  I can understand those fighting for this equal right in marriage to hesitate and have question with a politician&#8217;s heart, or a politician’s politics, if it rules over their sense of reason and justice.  </p>
	<p>Question: Does Ron&#8217;s sense of reason and justice trump his heart on this issue?  I cannot say with absolute certainty, but hope beyond hope it does for the POTUS.  The decision is yours and I fully understand anyone who chooses not to vote for Paul based on the question of his heart with this issue. </p>
	<p>I will vote for Paul; and hope many others will do the same.  And yes, the Question is still on my mind.  But I still hope, and I still believe his sense of liberty and freedom will win over all hearts, including his own.
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-479</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:16:04 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-479</guid>
					<description>Churches invented marriage? There was no marriage before the Catholic Church? Non-Christians don't get married? Are you people really this stupid?

This isn't about names, this is about rights.

You can only push people out of your way when those people are accountable, which means they can be held up to public scrutiny. Try holding up to public scrutiny a councilman who has lunch  with the Mayor every week and the editor of the only paper in town. Federal officials are a lot easier to hold to public scrutiny because there's a much bigger audience. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Churches invented marriage? There was no marriage before the Catholic Church? Non-Christians don&#8217;t get married? Are you people really this stupid?</p>
	<p>This isn&#8217;t about names, this is about rights.</p>
	<p>You can only push people out of your way when those people are accountable, which means they can be held up to public scrutiny. Try holding up to public scrutiny a councilman who has lunch  with the Mayor every week and the editor of the only paper in town. Federal officials are a lot easier to hold to public scrutiny because there&#8217;s a much bigger audience.
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		<title>by: Adam &amp; Amber</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-478</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:10:45 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-478</guid>
					<description>Homosexuals and Heterosexuals are called by different names so why can't their unions be called by different names?  Otherwise wouldn't we all be called simply &quot;people&quot; instead of receiving different names to identify us?  Churches are the founders of marriage, so I just need to say, &quot;Homosexuals, go invent your own union and leave ours alone.&quot;

Ron Paul believes in states having the power, so yes he does vote against gay marriage in HIS state.  That is his job.

It is easier to make a change in a smaller local government.  Look at it like this:
In a federal government, you might have 2,000 people in your way, against what you want, but in a smaller local government you may only have 20 people in your way.  Trust me, it's a lot easier to push over 20 people rather than 2,000!

@ O-Douche
Ron Paul's beliefs repress women?  Your beliefs repress unborn children, oh wait, they kill babies.

Go Ronny!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Homosexuals and Heterosexuals are called by different names so why can&#8217;t their unions be called by different names?  Otherwise wouldn&#8217;t we all be called simply &#8220;people&#8221; instead of receiving different names to identify us?  Churches are the founders of marriage, so I just need to say, &#8220;Homosexuals, go invent your own union and leave ours alone.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Ron Paul believes in states having the power, so yes he does vote against gay marriage in HIS state.  That is his job.</p>
	<p>It is easier to make a change in a smaller local government.  Look at it like this:<br />
In a federal government, you might have 2,000 people in your way, against what you want, but in a smaller local government you may only have 20 people in your way.  Trust me, it&#8217;s a lot easier to push over 20 people rather than 2,000!</p>
	<p>@ O-Douche<br />
Ron Paul&#8217;s beliefs repress women?  Your beliefs repress unborn children, oh wait, they kill babies.</p>
	<p>Go Ronny!
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-473</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:25:50 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-473</guid>
					<description>For starters not everyone goes to or wants to get married in a church, there are practical legal consequences to marriage, some of which are meant to protect the wife in such an arrangement, some of which are meant to promote marriage and children, some of which are just meant to promote the social arrangement 

universal civil unions might be simpler in some ways but it would end up being marriage by another name, once the legalities fall into place </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For starters not everyone goes to or wants to get married in a church, there are practical legal consequences to marriage, some of which are meant to protect the wife in such an arrangement, some of which are meant to promote marriage and children, some of which are just meant to promote the social arrangement </p>
	<p>universal civil unions might be simpler in some ways but it would end up being marriage by another name, once the legalities fall into place
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		<title>by: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-472</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:04:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-472</guid>
					<description>What exactly is the differance between Civil Union and a Marriage? Why don't we ALL just get civial unions, and if we want, go to the churches to decide who is Married. Isn't it their seal of approval that makes one married??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What exactly is the differance between Civil Union and a Marriage? Why don&#8217;t we ALL just get civial unions, and if we want, go to the churches to decide who is Married. Isn&#8217;t it their seal of approval that makes one married??
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-460</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:28:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-460</guid>
					<description>Go to your local town meeting and see how much good it does getting your state government to do anything</description>
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-457</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:53:06 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Our federal goverment is a total joke. Atleast at the local level you can go to a town meeting and have a real impact on whatever the issue is.. If any group thinks the federal goverment is the answer you are crazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Our federal goverment is a total joke. Atleast at the local level you can go to a town meeting and have a real impact on whatever the issue is.. If any group thinks the federal goverment is the answer you are crazy
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-420</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:29:10 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>marriage is a contract, a contract is between individuals, individuals have the right to contract, what does the state have to do with a contract between individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>marriage is a contract, a contract is between individuals, individuals have the right to contract, what does the state have to do with a contract between individuals.
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		<title>by: O_Deus</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-370</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:30:59 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-370</guid>
					<description>I'm guessing the above was supposed to be some sort of rejoinder to gay rights or whatnot but I'm afraid I don't get it

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m guessing the above was supposed to be some sort of rejoinder to gay rights or whatnot but I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t get it
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		<title>by: Bruch</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-369</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:24:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-369</guid>
					<description>My wife and I would like to be seniors.

We are virtually seniors, we are old before our times.  It was life in the fast lane, all-night parties, smoking, over-eating and just plain genetics.  

However, we cannot qualify for social security or lots of other government benefits.  We do not get the senior discount at coffee shops or the zoo.  

We need to be fully senior not just virtually senior.  It is currently unfair that we we cannot add 30 years to our drivers licences.  

We stood with signs to protest the hate at a senior trailer park that would not let us in.  Those that lived there called us names I will not repeat.

I stand for rights for virtual seniors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My wife and I would like to be seniors.</p>
	<p>We are virtually seniors, we are old before our times.  It was life in the fast lane, all-night parties, smoking, over-eating and just plain genetics.  </p>
	<p>However, we cannot qualify for social security or lots of other government benefits.  We do not get the senior discount at coffee shops or the zoo.  </p>
	<p>We need to be fully senior not just virtually senior.  It is currently unfair that we we cannot add 30 years to our drivers licences.  </p>
	<p>We stood with signs to protest the hate at a senior trailer park that would not let us in.  Those that lived there called us names I will not repeat.</p>
	<p>I stand for rights for virtual seniors.
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		<title>by: SHELDON</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-308</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:16:15 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-308</guid>
					<description>I'M ASTONISHED AT HOW STUPID SOME OF YOU ARE.  YOU'RE QUIBBLING OVER WHETHER THIS GUY COMES RIGHT OUT AND SAYS, &quot;I HATE FAGS&quot;!  ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN TO HIM SPEAK, READ WHAT HE WRITES, LOOK UP HIS VOTING RECORD, AND USE YOUR APPARENTLY UNDER-USED BRAINS.  JESUS, THIS IS INFURIATING!  HE'S A CHRISTIAN ZEALOT, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!  HE'S AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE, HE OPPOSES ROE v WADE AND WANTS IT OVERTURNED, ETC., ETC., ETC.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;M ASTONISHED AT HOW STUPID SOME OF YOU ARE.  YOU&#8217;RE QUIBBLING OVER WHETHER THIS GUY COMES RIGHT OUT AND SAYS, &#8220;I HATE FAGS&#8221;!  ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN TO HIM SPEAK, READ WHAT HE WRITES, LOOK UP HIS VOTING RECORD, AND USE YOUR APPARENTLY UNDER-USED BRAINS.  JESUS, THIS IS INFURIATING!  HE&#8217;S A CHRISTIAN ZEALOT, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!  HE&#8217;S AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE, HE OPPOSES ROE v WADE AND WANTS IT OVERTURNED, ETC., ETC., ETC.!
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		<title>by: Mike</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-288</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:38:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-288</guid>
					<description>Ron Paul's stance on sexual liberties is inconsistent with his so-called “libertarian” values. He claims to oppose excessive government interference in personal, private matters, but he's only against such interference if it's coming from the FEDERAL government; the states can interfere in their citizens' lives as much as they want! 

Indeed, your state government could deny you the right to marry your partner because you have a different skin color than her; it could wield its power to seize your property and replace it with a Quick-E-Mart; and it could impose an official theocratic governing system upon all its jurisdictions. But at the end of the day, Ron Paul would respond to this theocratic authoritarianism by saying, “well, as long as the federal government isn’t doing it, there’s no problem!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s stance on sexual liberties is inconsistent with his so-called “libertarian” values. He claims to oppose excessive government interference in personal, private matters, but he&#8217;s only against such interference if it&#8217;s coming from the FEDERAL government; the states can interfere in their citizens&#8217; lives as much as they want! </p>
	<p>Indeed, your state government could deny you the right to marry your partner because you have a different skin color than her; it could wield its power to seize your property and replace it with a Quick-E-Mart; and it could impose an official theocratic governing system upon all its jurisdictions. But at the end of the day, Ron Paul would respond to this theocratic authoritarianism by saying, “well, as long as the federal government isn’t doing it, there’s no problem!”
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		<title>by: CLS</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-287</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:03:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>See what happens when you question the cult of Ron Paul. 

Go instead to a federal issue and you still see Paul’s consistently antigay position. When asked about the current policy regarding gays in the military --- which chucks them out if they are discovered to be gay he called that a “decent? policy.

He then tried to divert the question by a lecture on group rights versus individual rights even though that was not part of the issue. The question was about individuals being discharged for being gay. INDIVIDUALS. After that detour he then claimed the policy was about disruptive behaviour when it is NOT about that. A non-disruptive gay person can be discharged just for being gay. If he doesn’t know the facts he should admit it. If he did know the facts then why falsify them? Neither is good for someone who wants to be president.

The final confirmation that he was not saying he supported equal rights for gays was the last question. The candidates were told by the moderator that if there was a single one of them willing to allow gay people to serve in the military to please speak up. Ron Paul kept his lips tightly sealed. So much for equal individual rights. He doesn’t  believe in group rights but he does appear to believe is stripping people of rights based on their group. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>See what happens when you question the cult of Ron Paul. </p>
	<p>Go instead to a federal issue and you still see Paul’s consistently antigay position. When asked about the current policy regarding gays in the military &#8212; which chucks them out if they are discovered to be gay he called that a “decent? policy.</p>
	<p>He then tried to divert the question by a lecture on group rights versus individual rights even though that was not part of the issue. The question was about individuals being discharged for being gay. INDIVIDUALS. After that detour he then claimed the policy was about disruptive behaviour when it is NOT about that. A non-disruptive gay person can be discharged just for being gay. If he doesn’t know the facts he should admit it. If he did know the facts then why falsify them? Neither is good for someone who wants to be president.</p>
	<p>The final confirmation that he was not saying he supported equal rights for gays was the last question. The candidates were told by the moderator that if there was a single one of them willing to allow gay people to serve in the military to please speak up. Ron Paul kept his lips tightly sealed. So much for equal individual rights. He doesn’t  believe in group rights but he does appear to believe is stripping people of rights based on their group.
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		<title>by: Rich</title>
		<link>http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/06/05/ron-pauls-opposition-to-gay-marriage-clarified/#comment-281</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:10:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>If all decisions on social issues were left up to the individual states to decide rather than the federal government, would women currnetly have the right to vote in every state, would slavery have been abolished in every state, and would we have the current federal civil rights laws in every state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If all decisions on social issues were left up to the individual states to decide rather than the federal government, would women currnetly have the right to vote in every state, would slavery have been abolished in every state, and would we have the current federal civil rights laws in every state?
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